Katanagatari 3 and Self-Defense?

March 13th, 2010

There may be spoilers?

Question: Is it me or is this any of this below actually in the show? As in, are these questions applicable to the further comprehension of Katanatagari anime, episode 3?

1. The main ‘villain’ inherited a defensive martial arts technique which is based around disarming the opponent and using their weapon against them?

1a. How is it possible that someone with such a technique expect to defeat another whose technique is entirely based on unarmed combat, with bonus advantages against armed opponents? Especially when the other has track record of beating opponents on their home turf, with probably equal or higher caliber weapons?

2. Does improvement on self-defense improve self-confidence? If so, can it attribute to over-confidence? Is this the poison?

2a. What exactly is the poison? The corruption of power?

3. Is this a feminist message?

4. Is her death atonement for the forty-three slain bandits?

4a. Did she realize the slain bandits did not make up for her own atrocious behavior prior to her redemption?

4b. Did she realizes she was no different than the predators of her trustees?

5. Kyotouryu practices different forms of disarming an armed opponent, but is this just one of many ways for a Kyotouryu practitioner to achieve his goal? Is this a preferred way or is there no doctrinal preference?

6. Will we get a story later on that maps out the confidence==weapon theme more blatantly than this episode?

6a. What does that say about the girls who are holding onto swords to help rebuild themselves psychologically?

6b. What does that say about Togame?

Did I just write a post with only questions? Maybe?

Bonus Round: How does this apply to Japan’s feeling of their SDF?



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4 Comments for 'Katanagatari 3 and Self-Defense?'

  1. lesterf1020
    7:32 AM, March 14th, 2010

    1. Yes, However, the principle is that swords are disposable and thus you can just as easily use your opponents sword as your own.

    1a. The technique is still a sword technique and Meisai had a thousand of one of the best made swords to use against her opponent. The main principle of the technique is that swords are disposable, hence the reason she does not use the same one for very long and often uses her opponents sword. She was obviously not completely confident of victory, hence her need to engage in psychological warfare and set a trap even so her attack was actually so effective that Shichika felt the need to change venue in order to win.

    2. Of course. Martial arts, self-defense and military training have been used for centuries to rebuild self esteem and provide a sense of direction and purpose as well as heal damaged hearts. Yes it can contribute to over confidence. No that is not the poison.

    2a. The poison is the perfect matching of a sword master with a perfect sword that suits their sword style. They become inseparable and it leads to abuse. It is impossible to get the sword master to give up the sword short of death. It is similar to a master violinist discovering the perfect Stradivarius violin, or a world class golfer finding the perfect set of clubs. They are unable to give up the sword, are constantly tempted to use it and their personality is corrupted around it. this is why Togame did not want help from another sword master to recover the swords.

    3. No.

    4. No. Her death is a result of her inability to give up the sword despite knowing it was doing more harm than good, her belief that her death would allow the swords to be removed from the temple and that a sword battle was an appropriate way to die as a sword master.

    4a. Irrelevant. She slew the bandits in order to change her life. organizations like that do not allow anyone, most of all the leader to just walk away with all of their secrets. Not to mention it would have made it easier to keep the swords.

    4b. She saw herself as doing better. She was now rescuing people the way she wished she had been rescued.

    5. No idea.
    6. No idea.

    6a. Meisai came to the conclusion that the swords only helped to a point. That after that point they became a crutch and that when they became sword masters themselves they would be struck by the poison. This is illustrated by the attempt on Togame’s life and the fact that the girls were still afraid of Shichika despite the fact that they were armed and he was not and they at that point had no reason to believe that he had a combat style.

    6b. It says that Togame understood Meisai’s concerns and agreed with her that the girls at this point were probably better off without the swords. It shows her compassionate side as she clearly regretted Meisai’s death and worked to avoid it.

    Bonus Round: eh?

  2. 8:34 AM, March 14th, 2010

    Thanks for answering the questions.

    1. Well, that point is moot if she only has one opponent. The disposable nature of the swords is irrelevant. What is relevant is that she has access to multiple swords hidden around the temple in case she is disarmed or can surprise her opponent with them.

    1a. I don’t think you answered my question.

    2a. Your answer here contradicts your answer later on.

    Your other answers just make me sad, lol, but gj.

  3. Taka
    2:31 AM, March 15th, 2010

    All I know is the half naked dude hit the chick with lots of swords in the chest and their was blood but no like…hole.

    Here’s some different questions.

    1. If this is one of the special w/e blades and there is only one how come there are as many blades as is needed?
    2. Does the original create more blades?
    3. If all the blades have the same “poison” does that mean they are legitimately special w/e blades?
    4. Shouldn’t they have to take all the blades with them? (yknow I don’t remember how many they carried off)
    5. How does one carry a thousand blades?
    6. Where do they keep it all?

    Bonus: Has logic ever been NisiOisiN’s strong suit?

    Oh yeah and the answer is No. To everything.

  4. 6:09 AM, March 15th, 2010

    Didn’t Meisai Tsuruga say her followers will help carry the swords for them?

    The impression I got was there is an original Tsurugi. I think they manage to not explain enough about the sword’s background that you are left guessing. There’s not enough information to say if it is illogical yet.

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